Showing posts with label #g11n. Show all posts
Showing posts with label #g11n. Show all posts

Tuesday, August 09, 2016

Report Flock 2016 - Kraków, Poland

Photo credit to JFlory !!

Trying to be on the spot !!
  • Got a chance to meet existing contributors, who are doing great work and i am communicating regular. I help them and they help me. Jean-Baptiste, Zoltan, Noriko, Alex, Patrick, Fale, Gabriele, Justin, Paul Frield, Matthew, Ryan,  Jona this list is bit big, so if i missed your name please consider its here. May be i could had written Team names.
  • Though G11N workshop was planned was on 3rd day but we were actually daily discussing open issues and how to get rid of it. It actually helped as a prep-work for workshop.
  • 1st and 2nd day, i did not missed even single track and attended at least one talk from each track. My schedule is here, feel free to ping me, if you want more info.
  • We had good number of talks on G11N this time
    • Please Note: Its not only APAC where there is need for languages other than English but its Europe as well. Only major issue APAC face is language with complex script. Europe most of the languages use Latin (extended), its make life bit easy for processing it on computer.
    • Talks and presence of more G11N members helped to make things more clear to other attendees and it actually help to get in new contributors. This is mostly from Translation side though but new contributors bring in new mind sets and help to improve processes. 
  • I presented on G11N audit of Fedora Atomic and happy it was well taken. Since presently more focus on modularity and containers, its right time to get involved and make sure adding language support will not become more bottleneck during implementation period. We need more testing.. At least in presentation i have mentioned more visible issues and even possible solutions as well. Going to work on then in coming Fedora releases. Presentation slides here. 
  •  G11N workshops was really with nice discussions and more action oriented. We all agreed to have 
    • Globalization steering committee for language related issues though need many fixes to proposal itself.
    • Mike Demonstrated IBUs Emoji typing feature and ibus typing booster multilingual stuff. these are key features in Fedora 25. Unicode 9.0 is already in Fedora 25.
    • Most of the members requested for T-shirts for G11N contributors. (FPL came as a rescue and mentioned it might be possible and depends.)
    • G11N FAD - More members are interested in hosting this :) Albania, Hungary and even Japan and India and i think some more locations. We have to coordinate with all and see how can we proceed for this.
    • Jean-Baptiste presented on improvements points and issues he gathered with Zoltan. I really liked those and even thinking it as a TODO list for Localization in coming year. We were need more time for discussions 2 hours is indeed not enough with many active people with different expertise, L10N, I18N and Zanata. I will be very happy if each members can blog with there TODO for next year, it will help to gather me improvements plan. May be we can push on community blog.
    • Summary is drafted in PiratePad
  • I also attended famsco and Budget workshop. In FamSco i think we are agreed to move ahead with fosco without replacing famsco and start with minimal groups. In budget, fyi.. Budget is happens for year "Mar-Feb" next cycle is Mar,2017-Feb 2018 and we are almost in planning phase for it. Any things which required specific budget please start listing it somewhere. 
  • Knowing this, its difficult to do G11N FAD till Feb 2017 requiring big budget. But if its less budget, good to propose it, there is always some chance. I am more oriented for doing virtual one till Feb 2017. Planning to having "Localization oriented FAD in Albania and Hungary", I18n oriented FAD remotely for F26 (Japan, Germany, India and may be other countries.)
  • Also we (with Jean-Baptiste and Zoltan)  got interviewed for Radio stuff. It was really great to see, recorder was so involved in the interesting things we were speaking that he forgot to start recording and we again redone recording :) Exciting to hear recording soon.
    * Though you might feel this is big blog, actually i missed lots thing into it, expecting dedicated post for each one.

Other highlights

  • Nicely organized Flock, in 2014 we were running whole day from Hotel-Venue-lunch dinner. Here it was same place, so actually gave more time for talks with other peoples.
  • Social events were nice. I loved it. In fact Location itself great. Nice to learn about Krakow history, its very reach.
  • Kudos to organizing team !! Joe came as a saviour for me in last moment and booked ticket in last stage. I confirmed my travel on 29 July, it is enough to explain pain. All other members including Bex, Rafel, Spot, Paul, Ruth there are many name here missing again, so please consider them.
  • Lucky to meet Ekaterina and David. After using and working for Gnome almost a 10 year, happy i became Gnome foundation member now.

    Might be i will write other blog with some specific things, i think enough for this one. Thanks for reading.

Thursday, February 11, 2016

Experience of attending DevConf.CZ 2016 - Day 2 & 3

Day 2

    Attended number of talks on day 2.
Second day, Noriko introduced me with Jona. Jona recently conducted two translation sprints for Albania. Noriko and Jona both were at Fedora booth on second day. Happy Noriko was in Devconf she helped to gather contributors interested and working for Globalizing Fedora :) I also spared sometime with them near Fedora booth. We decided to talk more in G11N meetup planned at 4pm.

We started moving to meetup room around 4pm. It was me, Fale, Jona, Noriko and puiterwijk. I earlier thought it will be quick meetup but gradually we discussed number of topics and it went on and on :) I learned lots of interesting things from localization point of view.
Second G11N meetup at DevConf 2016
Unfortunately markers was not working well and we started to add points to piratepad.


It was Networking Party day at Starobrno brewery pub. It is big pub and party was on till 2am but unfortunately next day my talk was there also don't wanted to miss Denise and Matthew talk in morning. So with heavy heart back to hotel around 11pm.   

Day 3

  • From schedule itself i started feeling its mini-flock :)
  • Was just in time to first talk, where Denise was explaining what Red Hat looking from Fedora, which i often explain in Fedora introduction. Then Matthew took over for State of Fedora, was happy with nice stats. Happy we are gradually moving from guess numbers to actual numbers. 
 
Relationship of Red Hat & Fedora+State of Fedora
  • Then i attended next talk from Matthias Clasen and Paul Frields, It was good talk and covered lots of topic.
And here comes my talk, First of all it was Sunday afternoon and parallel talk by Ralph Bean :) Even i was interested in attending his talk ;)

But happy, most of the people interested in G11N were there including Remy :) I made sure to make it more interesting by showing Voice Recognition Elevator - ELEVEN funny video demonstrating problems of non-globalized voice operated elevator system and same time technical.

Slides of my talk are available on slideshare. I intentionally avoided details on L10N, since Noriko's more detailed talk on L10N was next.

Noriko - Explaining huge tasks from L10N

It was good after my talk there was Noriko talks, it came in natural flow and few more people were there in Noriko's talk including docs members.

Then i went for lunch, found Matthew alone there at booth. Had good discussions with him on G11N, Flock and FUDCon and how to increase contributors and also bit roughly talked on idea of having G11N FAD with flock so more people from G11N can attend flock also they can have FAD.

Then comes final session...Grand Finale! Win Win Win!
Finale session.
Wow, it was hosue full and great to see happy faces all around with excellent DevConf. I liked the way, goodies distributed with easy competition. Though it sounded it was not since, most of the people sat down after few questions ;)

Then bye bye bye to all. Wanted to attend EMEA Ambassadors FAD but i was very tired and also next morning early flight to Mumbai.  Me, Huzaifas and Sinny moved to nice dinner at Pizzeria Al Capone to have Pizza.

At morning 6am started tiring journey back to Mumbai. Thought it was 24hrs but its always feels good to return back home, specifically after back to back conferences :)

Tuesday, November 17, 2015

Globalization Fedora activity day-3 report

    Third and last day was more action packed. As per schedule we were planning to complete all activities by Lunch and have presentations from participants on completed activity post lunch session. Then F24 planning, FAD closing, followed by F23 release party. It went as follows.

    I worked more on cleanup of Globalization governance group proposal and also worked bit more on Wiki cleanup.

    Same time other activities were going on like Determining list of important packages for Fedora. While checking Fedora packages in Zanata instance, we started how we can better group packages in Zanata. This discussion lasted for long time. Its really complicated presently.

    Situation is: Ideally fedora.zanata.org should have only packages from Fedora repos. But some package maintainers in Fedora also hold/lead the upstream of same packages. They decided to keep upstream repo itself in fedora.zanata.org.
    Branch confusion: Upstream packages has only master branch and Fedora packages has F22, F23, master etc.. We give more priority to active Fedora branch i.e. F23.
    Release: Upstream packages follows different schedule than Fedora. Contributing in master does not guarantee it will get included in Fedora XX release.

    And how about packages only has upstream in fedora.zanata.org but those are not in Fedora. I hope, no such packages are there.

    This discussion lasted for around hour, almost everyone jumped in. We came up with new structure and thought lets get back to other imp. task.
   
    We discussed on improving String freeze and Translation deadline for Fedora. We had good discussion but later while thinking how many packages breaks string freeze, only name that came up was Anaconda. We thought good to track it and also there is already plan to have some script which can automatically find string breaks. It will solve the issue. I really felt this discussion was not possible on IRC and actual meeting help to understand most of the complexities.

    It was lunch time. Sandwiches were there. We all braked for lunch but still few people were discussing and working.

    As per schedule after lunch everyone was suppose to present hackathon summary and then start Fedora 23 release party. But....

    We saw everyone was so involved in work and actually were trying to give finishing touch or wanted to discuss more. We decided lets extend it some more time. Rather than starting summary sessions At 1pm we started those around 3:30pm.

    Finally summary session started :) We followed order given on G11N FAD Wiki page. Format was, what have you been working in last 2 days, outcome and plans for future. I am expecting more detailed about this in in individual blog and mostly will add these things in community blog of Fedora.

    Everyone presented and it was around 5:00pm, We had still few topic pending i.e. Fedora 24 planning and official FAD closing. Jens insisted for F24 planning and we decided to drop Fedora 23 release party (I had prepared presentation for F23 features :( )

    But decision was worth, we got an excellent list for Fedora 24 plan. Planning in face to face meeting and planning on IRC is completely different experience. Sometime in IRC only few people speak but here everyone was so into it. List is already in summary document. Anyway its not bad to Celebrate Fedora 23 by doing development plan for Fedora 24 release, so hats off to everyone :)

    Then we started FAD closing session and it was around 6pm already, i would like to thank everyone since on last day most of the people want to leave early due to either travelling or some other plan but here everyone was there to see official closing of FAD. It shows success.

    In last Fedora G11N meeting, we decided to collaborate on Fedora community blog post specific on G11N FAD. Hoping will able to complete it soon. Will upload more photos later !! :)

Tuesday, November 10, 2015

Globalization FAD 2nd day report

    Took more time to write this than expected, thanks for back to back new activities for this. :)

    As per predictions it was raining on this day. Temperature dropped little bit more. Thank to Jens for already mentioning this, most of the people were with umbrella's and for few hotel provided them.

    Second day started with FPL's hangout. Meeting room speakers were not doing good join, so we decided just to project hangout on screen and dial in individually for listening and speaking.

FPL Matthew on Hangout addressing FAD group !!

    Hangout went very well with Matthew explaining, high priority items like Fedora Atomic and its importance with the rise of competition. Most of the developers are still working on core development and not that much concerned on G11N part yet. Suggested for us to look into it. Me briefly mentioned on activities we are doing and who are present. Session ended with Q&A with couple of questions like i.e. how can APAC people get funding for flock :) and Can Zanata team get more support from Fedora Infra team. Nice and Quick hangout helped to set up of remaining hackathon day. Its always bit run for everyone of us to manage with different timezones, we succeeded this time as well, thanks to Matthew for this :)

    First day discussion we felt Governance for G11N is missing and thought lets talk on it and sort out most of the things. Ok, background to this. There was Fedora localization steering committee once upon a time and they were resolving most of the issues related with L10N. But somehow its stopped.

Planned structure for G11N Governance group
 In present scenario there are around 81 language communities. Managing them and planning for this huge effort need some committee. We prepared our first draft and decided to present this to council. Jens mentioned one major point, whether it should be Steering committee or Working group. Decided to follow up on this next day.

     


Ueno'san, Peng Wu and Mike during hackathon

 Same time other parallel things were happening including Language Spins, Automated testing, IBus improvements and Glibc sub-packaging.

Bento Box

      Second day lunch was Bento box and hats of to Japanese for sense of colour combination and variety of food. Lunch was simply awesome.

      We have to vacant big meeting room due to Quarterly call. So we moved to breakout room

Noriko, Alex, Carlso and Ani during hackatohn in breakout room

Parag, Anish, Peng Wu and Ueno'san

Mike and Jens in Breakout room

     For Red Hat Forum 2015 Jim Whitehurst was in Tokyo and had meeting during same time in office. After his meeting he gave some time for signing copies of "The Open Organization" for RH employees :)

Most of the Red Hat FAD members used the opportunity and signed there copy. After couple of members signed book from Jim, Jim started noticing us saying, "So you are Fedora guy ;)

It was good to make some impact about Fedora activities. We took group photo with Jim :)

Please Consider Alex in this image - On Camera
    Changing meeting room and then again meet with Jim little bit distracted FAD schedule but i think its great to meet CEO. !!

    Around 4pm we again gathered and started working hard on hackathon topics. Continued few discussions plus Zanata survey result summary discussions. We were thinking to have Hackathon summary for the day session but we dropped planned since everyone was involved in hacking some stuff and not wanted to disturb them.

Alex, Ani and Carlos - Zanata survey analysis

    Second day was FAD social event day. It was dinner @ Indian Restaurant in Japan. Was bit frustrating for Indian attendees to eat Indian food in Japan. But Fujiwara'san convinced it is not that authentic Indian.



    It was excellent place, we grouped together, laughed, shouted, had food. Took so many photographs. ;)  Food style was Indian but flavours were Japanese. Unique combination ;)

  Overall great day with nice events !!